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GN[US Open, Round 3, Board 1 - 2009 US Go Congress - Lui, Eric (7d) vs. Kim, Myung-Wan (8p)]PW[Lui, Eric]PB[Kim, Myung-Wan]WR[7d]BR[8p]DT[2009-08-04]EV[US Open]RO[3]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Solomon Smilack]C[mcw85 [7k\]: USGO is this camera right near a light source?
USGO1 [-\]: Basically. The camera is on the window.
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to the American Go E-Journal’s LIVE coverage of the 2009 U.S. Go Congress!
USGO1 [-\]: Today we’re bringing you the top boards at the U.S. Open, the Congress 6-round main tournament.
USGO1 [-\]: Check the AGA website at www.usgo.org for Congress and tournament updates, including photos and more.
USGO1 [-\]: I will be bringing you the 2009 U.S. Open, Round 3, Board 1.
USGO1 [-\]: I'm Solomon Smilack, your game recorder. Enjoy the game!
che [-\]: Is B the top player in this tournament?
derp [1k\]: he won it last year
mcw85 [7k\]: q16 d16 r4 d3 
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[cp]C[USGO1 [-\]: Today’s EJ Team: Chris Garlock, Managing Editor; John Pinkerton, Recording Team Coordinator; Akane Negishi, KGS Admin; Steve Colburn, IT support; Max Peterson, Board 1; Solomon Smilack; Board 2; Matt Luce; Board 3; Max Peterson; Chris Burg, Relief. 
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;W[pp]
;B[dd]
;W[pd]
;B[nq]C[USGO1 [-\]: A video stream is available here: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
GoGetta [-\]: What time is it over there?
USGO1 [-\]: 9am
GoGetta [-\]: k
USGO1 [-\]: Kim Myung Wan won the 2008 US Open with a record of 6-0.
Remember [2k\]: aw man congress was in virginia this year? i shoudl have gone im in maryland lol
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;W[ep]C[nosebleed [2k\]: usgo1, is there a place to get the sgf's of these games? or should I just look in your(and other usgo accounts) game lists?
Remember [2k\]: you'd be better off with real pro games
USGO1 [-\]: I believe you can visit the tournament table...
nosebleed [2k\]: Remember, I'm not interested in looking at them for pro game value
nosebleed [2k\]: I have a database I pay for from go4go
XY0908 [-\]: USGO1, the description on live tv has an old information.
Remember [2k\]: garne value?
XY0908 [-\]: It has Eric and Feng Yun.
nosebleed [2k\]: there is a tourney table...nice I will try to find it
Remember [2k\]: oh no, just an impurity in my screen nevermind
nosebleed [2k\]: game
holycarp [-\]: yeah more like to see how strong is a pro compared to an amateur 9d :)
XY0908 [-\]: I hope USGO1 read my comments ;-)
nosebleed [2k\]: nah, more like see what the top players in the us play like
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;B[pn]C[Remember [2k\]: eric lui is the top us player?
nosebleed [2k\]: yes
CookiesX [18k\]: 7d vs 8p
whatisgo [1d\]: XY why aren't you at the congress?
nosebleed [2k\]: he is BBW i believe
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;W[np]
;B[mp]C[XY0908 [-\]: No
holycarp [-\]: no
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;W[no]
;B[oq]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Not BBW.
Reiter101 [-\]: b is tartare
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;W[po]C[GoGetta [-\]: Can someone guess how many go stones are in the containers?
nosebleed [2k\]: which one is bbw again?
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;B[qr]C[XY0908 [-\]: Andy Liu is BBW.
Reiter101 [-\]: w
whatisgo [1d\]: BBQ
Lentar [1k\]: tartrate?
Reiter101 [-\]: White is BBW and b is Tartare
nosebleed [2k\]: thx
mcw85 [7k\]: Andy. Liu.and black is not tartrate.
Lentar [1k\]: LoL
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;W[pj]C[Lentar [1k\]: hahaha
Reiter101 [-\]: no, tartare, the one that left a while back
mcw85 [7k\]: Andy Liu is BBW.
Remember [2k\]: is there both a tartrate and tartare?
holycarp [-\]: they are family?
Reiter101 [-\]: huh?
Remember [2k\]: no its liu and lui lol
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;B[gq]C[duha: So, what are w in b kgs names?
Lentar [1k\]: andy zhi is bbw?
koko [4d\]: eric got weaker huh
nosebleed [2k\]: andy liu played yesterday
Lentar [1k\]: the one playing now?
holycarp [-\]: oh ic :s
koko [4d\]: wasnt eric 8d?
mcw85 [7k\]: Zhiaonian Liu is BBW
Reiter101 [-\]: no
Reiter101 [-\]: eric lui
Reiter101 [-\]: is bbw
Lentar [1k\]: lol
mcw85 [7k\]: Zhiyuan*
Reiter101 [-\]: ah
Reiter101 [-\]: oops
Lentar [1k\]: every1 says different 
holycarp [-\]: nah bbw name is andy
Reiter101 [-\]: andy lui
Reiter101 [-\]: right
Lentar [1k\]: who is telling the truth
Remember [2k\]: who is white, and is black from this country?
Lentar [1k\]: ;P
Reiter101 [-\]: THIS IS NOT BBW
koko [4d\]: this is painist
che [-\]: Is B living in the states?
mcw85 [7k\]: Zhiyuan aka Andy Liu.
koko [4d\]: or theone
holycarp [-\]: its liu i think
Machida [6k\]: Haha, how do you guys find out info about random people online?
Lentar [1k\]: ok so other game is bbw
Lentar [1k\]: board2?
Reiter101 [-\]: but kim myung is tartare, the 9d legend on kgs :p
Machida [6k\]: BBW is overrated. There are so many other great go players out there.
Remember [2k\]: how is eric lui supposed to be our strongest if black is an 8p?
nosebleed [2k\]: machida, BBW and pianist are hardly random online players
Lentar [1k\]: black not american prob?
Sandalphon [5d\]: he's the strongest homegrown amateur
Machida [6k\]: random or not, who cares. you gonna stalk a 9D?
Reiter101 [-\]: black is korean
Reiter101 [-\]: but lives in the us
mcw85 [7k\]: Speculation that he is tartrate.
Sandalphon [5d\]: well, arguably the strongest
XY0908 [-\]: Yes.
Remember [2k\]: we need to have some U.S. pros
nosebleed [2k\]: no need to stalk when they tell you there names freely
Lentar [1k\]: we have no pros :P
nosebleed [2k\]: their*
Remember [2k\]: i know
yithril [2d\]: michael redmond?
Lentar [1k\]: no im not us
holycarp [-\]: give them money and they will go
yithril [2d\]: he's american
Remember [2k\]: but he doesnt play for U.S.
yithril [2d\]: and 9p
norg [3k\]: Tartrate vs Pianist... I suspect tartrate wins :P
Sandalphon [5d\]: yithril: trained in Japan from a young age
yithril [2d\]: he did in the mind games
Lentar [1k\]: but africa needs pros
Jadeite [?\]: and lives in Japan
yithril [2d\]: ...he's still american
Lentar [1k\]: :<>
Remember [2k\]: hes not a U.S. pro
mcw85 [7k\]: B is not tatrate.
yithril [2d\]: lol
XY0908 [-\]: Can we talk about the game please?
Sandalphon [5d\]: he IS american, doesn't he also have japanese citizenship though?
Sandalphon [5d\]: agreed XY
mcw85 [7k\]: Seems good for B
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;W[cq]C[Remember [2k\]: he doesnt play for us!!!! that is what i am talking about
XY0908 [-\]: ...
Remember [2k\]: fini
GoGetta [-\]: I would have prefered f5 instead
Arhiman [3k\]: is lower right joseki ? q6 aji seems so big
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;B[bq]
;W[dq]C[Remember [2k\]: its joseki, white ignored the first approach
mcw85 [7k\]: LR joseki.\\
Sandalphon [5d\]: is this on eurogotv?
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes
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;B[bo]C[XY0908 [-\]: That video feed still has wrong infos...
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;W[fo]C[Remember [2k\]: link?
mcw85 [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Remember [2k\]: thx
USGO1 [-\]: Open Results are at http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/72?sort=player
USGO1 [-\]:  http://gocongress.org/news.php
GoGetta [-\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest you dont have to sign in for this one
USGO1 [-\]: The video feed will continue to have the wrong info. Sorry.
holycarp [-\]: lazy boy
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;B[dm]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: ah there we go
XY0908 [-\]: Was that a promise, USGO1? ;-)
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;W[hp]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: sshh, don't make him laugh...
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;B[iq]C[Remember [2k\]: of course our strongest american is at least of asian descent lol
USGO1 [-\]: Myung Wan seemed to have this response ready.
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;W[hq]
;B[hr]
;W[gp]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: USGO1 is quite stoic, I'm impressed
Remember [2k\]: USGO1 looks HOT
Sandalphon [5d\]: it's the nose I think
mcw85 [7k\]: Joseki.
anda [1k\]: hi
XY0908 [-\]: Anyone notable from further away in the video?
duha: j4 not good?
GoGetta [-\]: Ihate this joseki i see it more often lately
Sandalphon [5d\]: cherry shen in the back right corner I think...
Remember [2k\]: old dude playing against a 10 year old - looks frusturated
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;B[jr]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: playing against yilun yang?
Arhiman [3k\]: oh, black on the left today ?
USGO1 [-\]: Kaelim Kim is playing James Sedgwick, and Shunichi Hyodo is playing XIngshuo Liu.
XY0908 [-\]: K2 must be better than  J4, I guess.
XY0908 [-\]: Thanks, USGO1.
Remember [2k\]: is anyone here rooting for black?
Sandalphon [5d\]: wait... that's not cherry? I mean, I can't exactly see the face...
holycarp [-\]: if black is tartrate white should resign 
Lentar [1k\]: black doesnt need rooting
TopRock [8k\]: why is the 8p black and not the 7d
TopRock [8k\]: 7d weaker no?
ethanb [2d?\]: after j4 white could get g2 for free - this way it's definitely gote
oreh [15k\]: hi all, what was the score at Alexander's game?
mcw85 [7k\]: No 8p weak
Lentar [1k\]: lol
DooM [6k\]: -*-
Remember [2k\]: its because its an even game, they did nigiri
mcw85 [7k\]: No nigiri.
Lentar [1k\]: resign
Lentar [1k\]: he won
mcw85 [7k\]: Random.
Remember [2k\]: well whatever computerized chosen or something
mcw85 [7k\]: Assigned by tourney.
TopRock [8k\]: cool
Remember [2k\]: the point is still made
GoGetta [-\]: Do they know each others rank?
Sandalphon [5d\]: yes
GoGetta [-\]: k
mcw85 [7k\]: No. It's a surprise.
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;W[gr]C[leger [1d\]: they most likely know each other
mcw85 [7k\]: K2 makes this move gote.
TopRock [8k\]: is this atornement?
Remember [2k\]: if it were j4 it would still be gote
TopRock [8k\]: what is this game?
mcw85 [7k\]: No.
TeeSushi [3d\]: tournament? yes
Remember [2k\]: yea
leger [1d\]: Read title.
Remember [2k\]: who cares about h2 stone mcw
Sandalphon [5d\]: gote is sometimes important.... like when you don't want to give them tons of forcing moves
mcw85 [7k\]: Obviously black since he proteced it.
TopRock [8k\]: how do you get to play in the tournement?
Remember [2k\]: i wish i could explain this mcw
ethanb [2d?\]: remember: gote for now yes, but with a big follow up - j4 would be overconcentrated afterward
Remember [2k\]: k2 was... more efficent because then he wouldnt have the impurity at j2
TeeSushi [3d\]: you have to be at the US go congress Top Rock
holycarp [-\]: obamas invitation
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;B[qf]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Exactly my point.
XY0908 [-\]: holycarp is trying to be funny always on every single line he spits out?
TeeSushi [3d\]: r14 is strange
Arhiman [3k\]: he tries
holycarp [-\]: it was too obvious 
holycarp [-\]: excuse
Remember [2k\]: r14 is trying to scare white
XY0908 [-\]: Not funny most of time. Soory for being blunt.
XY0908 [-\]: Sorry*
ethanb [2d?\]: I don't think the 8p pays psychological warfare most of the time :P
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;W[qe]
;B[pf]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Why be offensive, XY?
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;W[nd]C[holycarp [-\]: im not james blunt
Erimies [4d\]: r10?
yithril [2d\]: myung wan ist just plain good nuff said
XY0908 [-\]: mcw, sorry.
USGO1 [-\]: Both players are reading very intently now.
polonius [8k?\]: does eric lui play on kgs?
XY0908 [-\]: I just wanted to be more focused on the game.
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;B[rn]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: Eric always looks like that...
baned4life: eric is the owner of goigo right?
XY0908 [-\]: I love a move like S6.
baned4life: cause that guy plays on kgs
Remember [2k\]: eric's eyes have barely moved from this corner... the other guy is looking around smugly
Sandalphon [5d\]: I love Eric's reading, it's so expressive :)
Remember [2k\]: they both left lol
USGO1 [-\]: Eric's heading for a drink, and Myung Wan looks at some of the other games in progress.
sameasyou [2d\]: North American Ing Masters is a parallel competition to US Open?
Sandalphon [5d\]: yeah, but later in the day
sameasyou [2d\]: I see...thanks
Sandalphon [5d\]: S4 seems forced...
sameasyou [2d\]: why aren't all players from Masters in the Open then? 
Sandalphon [5d\]: they are... I think...
sameasyou [2d\]: Feng Yun is not for example
USGO1 [-\]: Myung Wan is looking over the game being played on board 2 between Andy Liu and Jie Liang.
Sandalphon [5d\]: who's in the masters that's not in the open?
Remember [2k\]: black has a superior position right now?
yithril [2d\]: yeah white's gonna have to think
yithril [2d\]: p8 seems unsatisfactory but s 4 is like backtracking
yithril [2d\]: i dunno
sameasyou [2d\]: Feng Yun, Yilun Yang
ethanb [2d?\]: sandalphon: Yilun Yang and Fung Yun at least
ethanb [2d?\]: sorry, Feng Yun
USGO1 [-\]: For those of you just joining us...
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to the American Go E-Journal’s LIVE coverage of the 2009 U.S. Go Congress! Today we’re bringing you the top boards at the U.S. Open, the Congress 6-round main tournament. Check the AGA website at www.usgo.org for Congress and tournament updates, including photos and more. Welcome to the 2009 U.S. Open, Round 3, Board 1. I'm Solomon Smilack, your game recorder. Enjoy the game!
Phear [-\]: Can you like pass a note or something to Xingshuo saying Trent says hi? =D
Remember [2k\]: lol
Prodigious [5d?\]: Disturbing players in the middle of their games is not really good form :p
Erimies [4d\]: do it
Erimies [4d\]: :f
Phear [-\]: prodi you now me o.o
Phear [-\]: know*
Phear [-\]: i escaped on you last game for crying out loud do you expect anythign less? =O
macgill [2k\]: black seems to seek a way to attack both the p
holycarp [-\]: r3 or s4 
Remember [2k\]: p6
edlee [2k\]: USGO, did B open C4 his own lower left corner, or is this board upside down?  :)
mcw85 [7k\]: The perspective is flipped.
edlee [2k\]: thank you
mcw85 [7k\]: No prob.
XY0908 [-\]: I think I owe an apology to holycarp.
mcw85 [7k\]: I thought that was weird when I saw it, so I checked the video feed.
XY0908 [-\]: I'm sorry for being rude earlier.
edlee [2k\]: where's the video feed?
mcw85 [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Koreangrl8 [3k\]: is there a way to upload b's games?
mcw85 [7k\]: There is another one, but I don't know the URL.
Remember [2k\]: black is really controlling the flow of this game
holycarp [-\]: you dont owe me nothing ;)
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;W[ph]C[edlee [2k\]: eurogotv is broadcasting the us open? wow, how nice of them
Chuushoku [11k\]: also at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
USGO1 [-\]: Eric spent a lot of time thinking about this move.
XY0908 [-\]: Q12 was unexpected, whoa!
mcw85 [7k\]: Interesting move.
Renju [-\]: I like q12
polonius [8k?\]: oh, eric lui is Pianist
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes.
thekaiser [1d\]: no it is logic to attack q14 but how is the major pb
TheShadow [-\]: Eric is also, TheOne
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;B[rp]C[plusguy [-\]: he is the one ?!
plusguy [-\]: ive been searching for the one my entire life ?!
plusguy [-\]: wow
Koreangrl8 [3k\]: o.0
yithril [2d\]: ok cool
Remember [2k\]: THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE
holycarp [-\]: exchange
plusguy [-\]: we found the chosen one !
bolbi [-\]: don't shout please
XY0908 [-\]: S4 looks so nice once it's played.
holycarp [-\]: s4 for white was joseki
holycarp [-\]: same as r4
yithril [2d\]: I like white better a bit
polonius [8k?\]: s6 looks even nicer
yame [1k\]: how old is that boy?
DooM [6k\]: haha
XY0908 [-\]: Really? Holycarp? This is an established variation?
holycarp [-\]: kogos say so
XY0908 [-\]: Whoa...
mcw85 [7k\]: I know I saw this joseki somewhere...
thekaiser [1d\]: frst tie for me
thekaiser [1d\]: time*
mcw85 [7k\]: Seems so bad for W, though.
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;W[fc]C[yithril [2d\]: gah
yithril [2d\]: i should type faster
XY0908 [-\]: if you can't find a good move, tenuki?
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;B[cf]C[yithril [2d\]: i'm almost at enough kibitz points to get a hat
mcw85 [7k\]: From playing Skee ball?
Hoyuk [12k\]: you can get a hat?
yithril [2d\]: all sorts of wonderful prizes, but you have to guess moves
holycarp [-\]: yithril -1 
Remember [2k\]: yea and it has the word 'Gullible' on the front
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;W[fe]C[aaaa4 [?\]: kim is tartrate ?
Hoyuk [12k\]: really? ^^
mcw85 [7k\]: No.
Remember [2k\]: ya its awesome
XY0908 [-\]: Eric like moves like F15
holycarp [-\]: reason :begging for hats
holycarp [-\]: sorry im back to the game
yithril [2d\]: thank god
mcw85 [7k\]: F15 unusual.
Remember [2k\]: not that unusual mcw
yithril [2d\]: seems good to me
Remember [2k\]: imagine if a black stone were at f15 instead, see how its kind of the pivoting point for each sides stones
XY0908 [-\]: With the formation of O16 and Q16, F15 seems almost normal.
GoGetta [-\]: Wow its like silent over there
mcw85 [7k\]: I'm not convinced.
Remember [2k\]: eric has made up some ground
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;B[kc]C[ethanb [2d?\]: it's ambitious, but it's ok here because of Q14
GoGetta [-\]: I think black will invade
yithril [2d\]: you got it
mcw85 [7k\]: I expected this as well.
Chuushoku [11k\]: even i did :)
Remember [2k\]: i didn't
huggy [3k\]: where can we see the results from yesterday?
Chuushoku [11k\]: looked hard for b to get anything up top after say w k16
USGO1 [-\]: http://gocongress.org/news.php Open Results http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/72?sort=player Ing Results http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/62
mcw85 [7k\]: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/72
GoGetta [-\]: How old is kim?
mcw85 [7k\]: Oops, beat me.
huggy [3k\]: great, thx
Remember [2k\]: how to respond to this
Remember [2k\]: j17 seems right
Shiona [?\]: I'd go with that
Chuushoku [11k\]: yeah
mcw85 [7k\]: Yeah, j17.
yithril [2d\]: hmm kind of annoying
XY0908 [-\]: J17 might be too gentle though.
Remember [2k\]: yea but i was thinking with black h17...
mcw85 [7k\]: Don't see how to be more severe.
XY0908 [-\]: It doesn't follow the F15 move.
darkboy [4k\]: i would J17 too, so it must be wrong, kyu move
Remember [2k\]: j16 maybe?}
XY0908 [-\]: W had a plan when he played at F15.
Remember [2k\]: l15!
Hoyuk [12k\]: i go with j16
sleepygirl: anybody thinks white will get at L15
GoGetta [-\]: I would go with a hig approach somethine like m15 
mcw85 [7k\]: M15, really?
sinsai [1k\]: wats the address for the webcam please?
Chuushoku [11k\]: m17 possible?
Remember [2k\]: well it attacks q14 nicely mcw
Windtalker [2d?\]: possibly C9. lol
mcw85 [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Remember [2k\]: chuushoku oftentimes attaching to an enemy stone makes it stronger
sinsai [1k\]: thank you
GoGetta [-\]: You dont have to login for this one http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
ethanb [2d?\]: chuushoku: anything is possible, the question is what's the objective
Vovka27 [14k\]: there a free registration))
yithril [2d\]: like if j 17 then o 18 and if he other way you have to settle the other stones
yithril [2d\]: kind of blech either way
Cruciatus [3k\]: w is looking for center hi must stop L17 to wake up
Chuushoku [11k\]: remember, ethanb: good points, i dunno :)
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;W[ke]C[XY0908 [-\]: !!
yithril [2d\]: nice
yithril [2d\]: throw down
XY0908 [-\]: Who won the bet?
mcw85 [7k\]: I was thinking this, but dismissed it as bad.
Chuushoku [11k\]: remember
GoGetta [-\]: l15 has too many holes for me 
huggy [3k\]: usgo1, i just checked the results link, and i can't find Kim 8p in this list. is there a reason?
Hightime [2d\]: complicqted for b
Remember [2k\]: he isn't there right now, hold on
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;B[id]C[holycarp [-\]: well white have 2 holes maybe one fix another 
XY0908 [-\]: L15 could have few purposes: One of them is to secure the captured B, Q14 is one
kukulis4 [2d\]: white O5 stones will die I think
USGO1 [-\]: He is at the top of the list.
USGO1 [-\]: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/72?sort=player
ethanb [2d?\]: they shouldn't unless he sacrifices them later
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;W[ie]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Stones are ard to die, but a burden to save.
GoGetta [-\]: I think its too early for a Go game they should play during the afternoon
ethanb [2d?\]: no, mornings are great - you definitely want to play before the afternoon nap joseki sets in :P
edlee [2k\]: USGO, are all the players in the same room (as you, right now) ?
mcw85 [7k\]: I think white will sacrifice for is moyo.
Chuushoku [11k\]: yes, nap is standard followup to lunch tesuji
Cruciatus [3k\]: Nobody try to kill main idea is to get strenght at center
USGO1 [-\]: The broadcasted games are being played in the first of 2 strong-player rooms.
ethanb [2d?\]: is white gets out of here with sente P7 will build the moyo without sacrifice
edlee [2k\]: ok, thanks. so they have different rooms, not one big hall
USGO1 [-\]: Players above 4d receive an extra 30 minutes of main time each.
USGO1 [-\]: The rest of the games are played in the main hall.
Phear [-\]: so what if 5d vs. 4d?
Lentar [1k\]: ye does one get more time
Lentar [1k\]: :>
ethanb [2d?\]: they probably both do :)
USGO1 [-\]: Now Eric is watching the game between Andy Liu and Jie Liang.
edlee [2k\]: USGO, how many EuroGoTV webcams total? just for board 1 ?
USGO1 [-\]: Just the one.
edlee [2k\]: they're so nice :)
jaywon84 [5k\]: are there many 8p in the world...?
Remember [2k\]: many many
jaywon84 [5k\]: oh...
ethanb [2d?\]: haha
pandu [8k\]: eric lui c un gaulois ?
cashcow [4d\]: it's the sandbagger again!
edlee [2k\]: jay, you can go to the Nihon-Ki-in website and look at their list of Japanese 8p's  :)
darkboy [4k\]: chinois a mon avis
cashcow [4d\]: playing B nonetheless
cashcow [4d\]: KILL HIM, eric!
DoubleLion [2k\]: does eric have a kgs account?
ethanb [2d?\]: there are currently a lot that might not be if they became pro now; a few years ago the pro associations did away with promotion games so you can only be promoted for winning tournaments or having otherwise good results
Cruciatus [3k\]: B needs a stone near n15 to get aji at w moyo
Remember [2k\]: m15
GoGetta [-\]: tengen =P
Ekibyo [10k\]: they got 2 hours time?
holycarp [-\]: i like how black swings back and forth while he analize
DoubleLion [2k\]: yep
mcw85 [7k\]: No, 120 mins.
ethanb [2d?\]: but Kim Myung-wan is not one of those; he's a young Korean pro. I have no idea why he moved to the U.S. :P
cashcow [4d\]: that must be painful
jaywon84 [5k\]: lol mcw...
Remember [2k\]: its a dramatic change in myung-wan's posture... before he was looking around and cocky now hes focusing and rubbing his head... go ericQ
holycarp [-\]: swinging back and forth=audio-visual aids
holycarp [-\]: aid
cashcow [4d\]: no, it's a trap
Onmyoji [2d\]: IS THIS BIGBADWOLFFF
XY0908 [-\]: G16?
XY0908 [-\]: No, Onmy.
TheShadow [-\]: no Onmyoji
Onmyoji [2d\]: WHO IS IR
Onmyoji [2d\]: T
TheShadow [-\]: TheOne
Phear [-\]: no, andy liu is bigbadwolf
Onmyoji [2d\]: OK
edlee [2k\]: USGO, very warm there? everyone in T-shirts. any fans or air-conditioning?
Phear [-\]: contrary to popular belief, caps lock is not cruise control for cool onmyoji
USGO1 [-\]: Yes, the room is air conditioned
cashcow [4d\]: wow... bigbadwolf's pics are awesome
Hoyuk [12k\]: yes
Ekibyo [10k\]: rofl the kid thinks omg what a noob match xDD
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;B[oc]C[cashcow [4d\]: kim's gonna lose on time
Remember [2k\]: p17, brutal
jewel [1k\]: mwung-wan has 7 second-line stones
jewel [1k\]: eric has 1
Shiona [?\]: sure looks a daring move
Chuushoku [11k\]: so many dramatic moves
cashcow [4d\]: o17 OK
Remember [2k\]: b mistake?
Phear [-\]: eric has 1
jm1107 [3k\]: how time remaining?
Yippie [2d\]: s4 is on 4th line ^^
GoGetta [-\]: Hes forcing white to the center
Onmyoji [2d\]: if w wins this he will be pro?
Shiona [?\]: I wouldn't dare to imagine a mistake after such a long reading
Yippie [2d\]: and r2 is on third
Gay [5d\]: w will not win dont worry
deft [3d\]: stop trolling Onmyoji
Hegel [2k\]: yeah and b will lose his title..
cashcow [4d\]: kim losing concentration
denifl [4k\]: if white wins he will be promoted to pro
Onmyoji [2d\]: ok
Remember [2k\]: awesome! win!
cashcow [4d\]: can't...... focus..... oh.... no.....
jaywon84 [5k\]: isn't he pro yet?
denifl [4k\]: not yet, no
Remember [2k\]: hard reading
jaywon84 [5k\]: so the 8"p" doesn't mean Pro?
DoubleLion [2k\]: omg...
edlee [2k\]: no, Onmyoji, W will not become pro if he wins :)
Hegel [2k\]: lol
edlee [2k\]: jay, yes the 'p' means pro
denifl [4k\]: *hrm*
jaywon84 [5k\]: but he's not pro... lol
Hegel [2k\]: no t means pourquoiiii !?
Onmyoji [2d\]: why does a pro and amatuer play then
cashcow [4d\]: anythjing can happen... maybe kim forgot to take a crap this morning and yesterday and the day before yesterday
Remember [2k\]: lmao
edlee [2k\]: Onmyoji, because this the US Open, anyone can play
Remember [2k\]: bwahhaha
jaywon84 [5k\]: you can have tournaments where amateurs come to play againt pros
GoGetta [-\]: There is only two pros in the tournament?
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;W[od]C[Hegel [2k\]: isn't counted as cheatin to be pro
Remember [2k\]: o17 only move?
edlee [2k\]: hegel, this is their job. how do you mean? :)
Onmyoji [2d\]: but the strength difference is so hure, and no handicap :O
cashcow [4d\]: it's like albert einstein vs mark twain
Onmyoji [2d\]: huge
Hegel [2k\]: no i meant a pro participatin in tournament 
ethanb [2d?\]: hegel: it's an open tournament - if it were amateur only, sure, but open means everybody
edlee [2k\]: Onmyoji, the difference is not huge
Hegel [2k\]: i wasn't askin
edlee [2k\]: Hegel, not cheating at all. Fair :)
Hoyuk [12k\]: do the pros get paid to play at us opening?
edlee [2k\]: If they win, yes
Hegel [2k\]: yeah that was my  point ^^
ethanb [2d?\]: hoyuk: there aren't game fees, no - only prizes
Hoyuk [12k\]: oh i see
USGO1 [-\]: White has 77 minutes of main time left. Black has 90 minutes of main time left.
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;B[nc]C[holycarp [-\]: whats the game prize in this tourney for the winer
edlee [2k\]: B likes cash :)
kryft [1k?\]: Pros tend to like cash.
Hegel [2k\]: yeah
edlee [2k\]: indeed :)
Phear [-\]: andy likes cash
Kirby [1k\]: that's how you win
Hoyuk [12k\]: who wants to be pro?
shindon [9k\]: me
holycarp [-\]: bad new to cashcow
Hegel [2k\]: artem wants
Neurotrash [9k\]: I want to be a pro, but not at go
Kirby [1k\]: nba is good choice
MrShintou [5d\]: s12 
Hegel [2k\]: sure nba is fine
Shiona [?\]: neuro: why not at go?
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;W[pc]C[Gay [5d\]: pro is good money?
Hegel [2k\]: hmm never tasted it
DoubleLion [2k\]: he want to be a neuropro
GoGetta [-\]: If you win
ethanb [2d?\]: gay: not unless you're one of the big title winners
Warfreak2 [5d\]: or if you can speak english
Leibnix [8k\]: Sure, some of the riches people in the world got their money from playing go :)
Gay [5d\]: lol
edlee [2k\]: if by some you mean "very few", yes :)
Warfreak2 [5d\]: if you're a pro and can speak english, enjoy your 30 euros an hour for lessons
Remember [2k\]: name some go billionaires then lol
Onmyoji [2d\]: and 1 lesson per week lol
ethanb [2d?\]: most pros make just enough for a tiny apartment and some ramen
Hoyuk [12k\]: lol
Remember [2k\]: but they get all the booty
g6 [?\]: that doesn't sound too bad
Hoyuk [12k\]: i can live with that
edlee [2k\]: ahem, Remember
ethanb [2d?\]: g6, hoyuk: I agree :)
Gay [5d\]: i would feel bad by taking some nub 20kyu cash who just watched hikaru and dream about being pro ^^ or their parents cash
about4d: lol
Warfreak2 [5d\]: welcome to capitalistan, gay
Hegel [2k\]: oh that's rude
Remember [2k\]: and then watch him become better than you
ethanb [2d?\]: gay: then do your best to give him a good lesson and you won't feel so bad
g6 [?\]: how would that differ from most tuition?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: because he feels he's not teaching anything useful, g6 :-p
g6 [?\]: how does that differ from most tuition?
Kirby [1k\]: school is useful
Chuushoku [11k\]: at least go is useful for enjoyment ... try teaching calculus :)
Hegel [2k\]: some people can afford 30 eurs lessons, so why feel guilty
Remember [2k\]: i am going to major in music education, and i think that is useful
Warfreak2 [5d\]: chuushoku, that's below the belt
Kirby [1k\]: people that did bad in school claim it's not useful
GoGetta [-\]: Not ever pro gets lessons you have to be popular
XY0908 [-\]: By looking at you, I am not sure, Kirby. ;-)
Leibnix [8k\]: isn't calculs fun now?
Kirby [1k\]: :)
XY0908 [-\]: Marrying to a Korean lady is.
Chuushoku [11k\]: warfreak: maybe, but i taught for a long time, many students didn't enjoy it :)
Remember [2k\]: tenuki!
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;B[hd]C[Hoyuk [12k\]: i don't ^^
Kirby [1k\]: is useful?
Gay [5d\]: b won all games on this tournament?
XY0908 [-\]: Very, Kirby.
Warfreak2 [5d\]: if you're comparing go to maths, then calculus is some rubbish aspect of go like joseki
Kirby [1k\]: :)
USGO1 [-\]: Myung Wan played that move, then bit his lip.
Warfreak2 [5d\]: tartrate?
Kirby [1k\]: discrete algebra was my favorite math course
kjp [1k\]: is it possible to correct the light settings on the camera, so the board will be more clear? Please
cashcow [4d\]: h15 h15 h15 
Warfreak2 [5d\]: topology, yum yum
Hoyuk [12k\]: how can one have a favourate math course?
Chuushoku [11k\]: ^^ yes
Remember [2k\]: i second this
Hoyuk [12k\]: i mean...maths....
deft [3d\]: H14 is better shape than H15, isn't it?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: cashcow, the second and third moves in your sequence are illegal moves
Koukkaaja [2d\]: and why is topology such fun?
baian [1d\]: mmm lets play go on a coffee cup
Warfreak2 [5d\]: topology is fun because it's unashamedly useless
ertse: d17 
Chuushoku [11k\]: and it is beautiful
Warfreak2 [5d\]: much like go
Leibnix [8k\]: I don't trust people who claim their favourite math course isn't linear algebra
Onmyoji [2d\]: h15 h17 g16 j17 f18 
Vovka27 [14k\]: Kirby - descrete algebra is for beginers ;)
MrShintou [5d\]: talk about the game please.
Warfreak2 [5d\]: lol linear algebra
deft [3d\]: I _liked_ linear algebra
Warfreak2 [5d\]: some nice stuff in linear algebra
GoGetta [-\]: I hate making graphs
Hoyuk [12k\]: w has nice moyo for centre
Warfreak2 [5d\]: but it's like saying white is your favourite colour
Lion [2d\]: is rengo?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: it's not very imaginitive
Lion [2d\]: its?
Leibnix [8k\]: maybe we should talk about this is a game related way...
polonius [8k?\]: sure.
Hoyuk [12k\]: pls
Leibnix [8k\]: considering the board as a matirx...
Remember [2k\]: kim looks nervous
Warfreak2 [5d\]: over F_3, right?
polonius [8k?\]: in a game related way: black is my favourite colour
Warfreak2 [5d\]: hold on let me bust out some galois theory on this
edlee [2k\]: Lion, not rengo. US Open, 1 player vs 1 player.
Lion [2d\]: so why its
longtong [15k?\]: is F2 a good move? 
Remember [2k\]: omnyoji your sequence is...
Lion [2d\]: "lui, eric"
Lion [2d\]: and
DoubleLion [2k\]: omg lol
edlee [2k\]: last name, first name :)
Lion [2d\]: ha lol
USGO1 [-\]: It looks like Eric needs more water.
Warfreak2 [5d\]: go tartrate
kukulis4 [2d\]: white n17, and O18 is not enough ?
Remember [2k\]: take this time to adjust the filter settings on the camera?
Hoyuk [12k\]: is it hot there?
longtong [15k?\]: what is tartrat?
kjp [1k\]: is it possible to correct the light settings om the camera?
tornemhi [1d\]: longtong, the best player who is watching this game is the one who has played the move, so we don't know
XY0908 [-\]: W is having hard time.
longtong [15k?\]: ok
YeknomGib [4k\]: understandable, since go is hard
DoubleLion [2k\]: A tartrate is a salt or ester of the organic compound tartaric acid, a dicarboxylic acid.
XY0908 [-\]: Since B's move at G3.
Leibnix [8k\]: I guess, if you play an 8p, and don't have a hard time, you're not 7d
Socratizer [3k?\]: f2 is a good endgame move, but I don't think it's anything now
Sandalphon [5d\]: Leibnix: so he's not 7d?
escada [4k\]: h15?
holycarp [-\]: In 2006 and 2007, the tournament's top prize was $2000. <--from wikipedia
Leibnix [8k\]: he is having a hard time !
USGO1 [-\]: Sorry about the camera.
holycarp [-\]: very cheap
Chuushoku [11k\]: try sunglasses over the lens
kjp [1k\]: ok
kiusasori [2d\]: how many time left ?
kukulis4 [2d\]: Black is in the left in the eurogo tv screen, but there is writen : Feng Yun 9P (right)
kukulis4 [2d\]: there is different game I guess :)
XY0908 [-\]: It has a wrong info since the move one.
USGO1 [-\]: Again, sorry about the camera and video info.
XY0908 [-\]: It was from yesterday.
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;W[dc]C[USGO1 [-\]: For those of you just joining the game:
Gay [5d\]: w has no chance
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to the American Go E-Journal’s LIVE coverage of the 2009 U.S. Go Congress! Today we’re bringing you the top boards at the U.S. Open, the Congress 6-round main tournament. Check the AGA website at www.usgo.org for Congress and tournament updates, including photos and more. Welcome to the 2009 U.S. Open, Round 3, Board 1. I'm Solomon Smilack, your game recorder. Enjoy the game!
Vovka27 [14k\]: there writen 2nd tound, but this 3d))
kjp [1k\]: thank you for your effort
edlee [2k\]: USGO, this is already very nice that we even have a live webcam. Maybe next time the video quality will be better (like in EGC :)
USGO1 [-\]: It's my pleasure as always.
Chuushoku [11k\]: yes, thx much, this is great
holycarp [-\]: whats wrong withe video quality?
Om [7k\]: is there a camera, whats the url?
IGoofy [1d\]: the cam really has no facilities to adjust ?
USGO1 [-\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest 
USGO1 [-\]: http://gocongress.org/news.php Open Results http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/72?sort=player Ing Results http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/62
edlee [2k\]: holycarp, eurgotv technology is capable of higher resolution and video quality, as in Euro Congress just last week
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;B[ed]C[edlee [2k\]: B has lots of cash :)
Remember [2k\]: not so much
craig [4k\]: picture is just fine... thanks for the link to the video USGO1
cloud [2d\]: this may have already been asked, but why only top three boards today?
USGO1 [-\]: Eric sighs, and takes a few stones to fiddle with.
USGO1 [-\]: We have greater coverage of the NAIM tournament in the evenings.
edlee [2k\]: USGO, with webcam for NAIM ?
USGO1 [-\]: And also will broadcast the Redmond Cup games in the afternoon.
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;W[fd]C[USGO1 [-\]: For the top board, yes.
edlee [2k\]: very nice
holycarp [-\]: yes ^^
DoubleLion [2k\]: h15 any good now?
edlee [2k\]: is B E17 too small now?
Wizze [1d\]: if it work s out it s big =)
kukulis4 [2d\]: white preparing for g18
Vovka27 [14k\]: where Eric lost again?
DoubleLion [2k\]: ?
USGO1 [-\]: Eric is looking over the games between Jie Liang and Andy Liu and also Juyong Koh and Ge Yongfei.
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;B[ec]C[edlee [2k\]: not small :)
USGO1 [-\]: *Yongfei Ge
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;W[he]C[elh [5d\]: E18 too good now
deft [3d\]: hard to see how these W outside stones can be turned into profit
MrShintou [5d\]: f18
deft [3d\]: B already has lots of secure points
MrShintou [5d\]: i like b better
Dantek [1k\]: black too strong
Dantek [1k\]: so dominating
ethanb [2d?\]: vovka27: I'm not strong enough to say for sure, but in my opinion R15 has a bad feel to it because of the Q6 aji.
XY0908 [-\]: Mr. Kim's style is 'territorial'.
MrShintou [5d\]: e18 may be best
evanj [2d\]: i used to play eric lui in tournaments when he was about nine years old...
edlee [2k\]: B E18, W F18, then B N17 ?
evanj [2d\]: he beat the crap out of me then
ParrotHead [4k\]: did Mr Kim study in China then?  
nhhm [1d?\]: m15
XY0908 [-\]: No, in Korea.
deft [3d\]: W can L5 + Q7 to try and make the center?
USGO1 [-\]: Kim Myung Wan is a Korean 8p. He won the 2008 US Open with a record of 6-0.
ethanb [2d?\]: parrothead: Kim Myung-wan is a Korean pro
cloud [2d\]: how best to handle the weak white stones in the bottom right?
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;B[fb]C[Remember [2k\]: ok white has no chance
nhhm [1d?\]: Kim is a Korean name, Liu is a Chinese name
MrShintou [5d\]: first guess was best :-/ i was afraid white could live inside..
ParrotHead [4k\]: I know he is Korean, but still could study in Japan or China
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;W[gb]C[XY0908 [-\]: He studied in Korea.
ethanb [2d?\]: good point, but nope
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;B[eb]C[XY0908 [-\]: Not many Koreans go to Japan these days to study Go.
MrShintou [5d\]: j17 i wondered if it works
evanj [2d\]: Question: where can I see the results of last night's NAIM games?
XY0908 [-\]: I think Cho Hoon Hyun was one of tha last generation who studied in Japan.
edlee [2k\]: correct shape here is W G16 ?
Modoc [7k\]: do you know what board it was played on?
GoGetta [-\]: k16 ?
ParrotHead [4k\]: I thought territorial style seems more Chinese style than Korean style
Socratizer [3k?\]: gocongress.org/news.php has links to game results if you poke around
USGO1 [-\]: http://gocongress.org/news.php Open Results http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/72?sort=player Ing Results http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/62
deft [3d\]: I would G17
Chuushoku [11k\]: this kyu might h17
MrShintou [5d\]: I would J17 :D
evanj [2d\]: thanks USGO1
deft [3d\]: G16 just gives B both H17 and H18
polonius [8k?\]: chinese are almost as aggressive as koreans
evanj [2d\]: poor keith arnold :(
edlee [2k\]: thx, deft
XY0908 [-\]: ParrotHead, there are many Japanese and Chinese pros who play more 'aggresive' style than Koreans ;-)
chibikota [4k\]: m17
Remember [2k\]: k17
polonius [8k?\]: g17
ethanb [2d?\]: I think S6 was pretty darn agressive - it's not black's fault that W avoided the fight
ethanb [2d?\]: :)
Newstyle [5k\]: is black group weak on top?
ethanb [2d?\]: that's what everybody's wondering, including Eric
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;W[om]C[polonius [8k?\]: !
Remember [2k\]: moyo time!
Newstyle [5k\]: no:)
cashcow [4d\]: it's over
cashcow [4d\]: kim is gonna K10
ParrotHead [4k\]: w hoping to get center?
Hegel [2k\]: what else
cashcow [4d\]: or kim can N14 and kill all of W
DoubleLion [2k\]: nespresso
Arhiman [3k\]: has white a single chance to win like that ??
alexjhu [9k\]: 8p?
polonius [8k?\]: no
alexjhu [9k\]: wow
Hegel [2k\]: yeah but george isn't there
cashcow [4d\]: k10!
cashcow [4d\]: show us the magic, kiM!
Godsent [2k?\]: isn't h18 big
cloud [2d\]: k10 is kind of vague
nhhm [1d?\]: q9
Hoyuk [12k\]: will eric get kim-med?
alexjhu [9k\]: ow yeah
DoubleLion [2k\]: prolly
polonius [8k?\]: N14 would probably hurt the top group
edlee [2k\]: this is a nice game to watch :)
Remember [2k\]: he already has...
manestor [4k\]: e10 
polonius [8k?\]: G17
deft [3d\]: N5
cashcow [4d\]: did W win all of his games?
GoGetta [-\]: Yeah hes 2-0
USGO1 [-\]: Both players are 2-0 at this stage.
Chuushoku [11k\]: d11
cloud [2d\]: i dare say b f18 may have been a mistake
cashcow [4d\]: yes
Remember [2k\]: why?
cashcow [4d\]: let's have an upset win
cashcow [4d\]: like aguilar!
cloud [2d\]: because it is slow
cashcow [4d\]: go eric! go bambi go!
macgill [2k\]: why both of them move so slow??
holycarp [-\]: wow really nice
macgill [2k\]: just 56 steps
luda [11k\]: Eric, like Eric Cantona. 0O
qwazidan [4k\]: 2 hours main time each
jantiff [-\]: O9
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;B[pl]C[luda [11k\]:  Am I right in assuming that black style is grounded on territory and reduction ?
shindon [9k\]: is this game still going
jantiff [-\]: i don't know his style, but that's his strategy in this game certainly
cashcow [4d\]: b;s strength is in close fight
raifu [3k\]: who are those spectators
fairgo1 [1k\]: is there live feed for this game?
cashcow [4d\]: saw B slaughter zchen yesterday
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;W[nk]C[USGO1 [-\]: White has 55 minutes left. Black has 1 hr 5 minutes left.
GoGetta [-\]: bbw won 
docJ [7k\]: white needs big central moyo to win
docJ [7k\]: i doubt he can do it
cashcow [4d\]: r11 !
DiGigot [6k\]: it seems that white thinks he can win...
alexjhu [9k\]: tengen
shindon [9k\]: why tengen?
alexjhu [9k\]: seems fun
shindon [9k\]: he he
DiGigot [6k\]: because there is a dot there
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;B[hb]C[DoubleLion [2k\]: b doesnt care about center:p
alexjhu [9k\]: yeah but if the can take out center, white will be crushed
Remember [2k\]: f8
KillerMonk [4d\]: well the problem is can white make enough points in the center to win 
edlee [2k\]: life + cash first :)
DuiBuQi: I saw B destroy zchen yesterday 
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: yes, amazing
KillerMonk [4d\]: here it seems very difficult to do so
GoGetta [-\]: You know the game isnt close to beign over when there isnt ko
Remember [2k\]: especially the pattern of this game so far
cashcow [4d\]: f8 !
docJ [7k\]: GoGetta your name should be KoGetta
Gay [5d\]: maybe againts u
GoGetta [-\]: lol
Gay [5d\]: but not this black 
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;W[dg]C[Cruciatus [3k\]: all eggs in the same pack  N5 is necessary
cloud [2d\]: worth the chance for w
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;B[je]C[USGO1 [-\]: For those of you just joining us:
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to the American Go E-Journal’s LIVE coverage of the 2009 U.S. Go Congress! Today we’re bringing you the top boards at the U.S. Open, the Congress 6-round main tournament. Check the AGA website at www.usgo.org for Congress and tournament updates, including photos and more. Welcome to the 2009 U.S. Open, Round 3, Board 1. I'm Solomon Smilack, your game recorder. Enjoy the game!
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;B[jd]C[DoubleLion [2k\]: very calm
Remember [2k\]: who else read that even though they've already read it twice
alexjhu [9k\]: i went to the website
DanielTom [3d\]: hello Smilack ;)
alexjhu [9k\]: there is nothing in ti
Remember [2k\]: should white have thought about k16 instead?
alexjhu [9k\]: usgo?
KillerMonk [4d\]: m15 seems to work for black now...
WoolyMaCha [5k\]:   Thx for the info, Solomon.
DoubleLion [2k\]: surely w will answer there
XY0908 [-\]: Is W getting enough compensation of giving up the top and the left top corner?
DoubleLion [2k\]: lets hope so xy:)
Modoc [7k\]: this has nothing to do with the game. Can you get your aga ranking on line. Or do they have to be real live games?
MrShintou [5d\]: white can't win this really....  he has only the top right as cash
ParrotHead [4k\]: B seems to be saying "how well do you count territory W"
XY0908 [-\]: Modoc, real life games only.
alexjhu [9k\]: usgo1 i check the website
alexjhu [9k\]: where is the update?
alexjhu [9k\]: it is empty site
USGO1 [-\]: I did. http://www.usgo.org
MrShintou [5d\]: black still has F2 to take away points.  white lacks.
XY0908 [-\]: You have to participate tournaments in real life.
USGO1 [-\]: It's up.
alexjhu [9k\]: lol
Modoc [7k\]: Xy0908 ok thanks. 
alexjhu [9k\]: i put.com
quique [13k\]: C9
cloud [2d\]: w can try for h1 before f2
XY0908 [-\]: White has to answer here.
XY0908 [-\]: Can't tenuki now, I think.
DoubleLion [2k\]: think so too
jantiff [-\]: C13 ^^
PinotNero [2k\]: J13
Yoseki [3k\]: R14 dead?
jerbio [1d\]: AYB
Cruciatus [3k\]: w e8
Leibnix [8k\]: n5 gleams like a diamond on a dancing girl
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;W[ig]C[MrShintou [5d\]: d10 
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;B[kf]C[Cruciatus [3k\]: must stop B to get f7
PinotNero [2k\]: funny why a pro is participating in an amatuer tourney
jantiff [-\]: he is crazy :)
cloud [2d\]: is is what eric wants
XY0908 [-\]: I love L14 cut.
Chuushoku [11k\]: fight!
USGO1 [-\]: Yixian Zhou has pulled up a chair and is watching intently.
DuiBuQi: You sound bitter PinotNero
Gay [5d\]: whos yixian zhoy
Chuushoku [11k\]: is open tourney, not amateur
USGO1 [-\]: *Yixian Zhou 6d)
Gay [5d\]: k thx
DoubleLion [2k\]: anyway its good for the amas to play against a pro, i would like it anyway
GoGetta [-\]: Does kim have a specialspot for his games??
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;W[le]C[evanj [2d\]: no, he just plays on board 1 :)
evanj [2d\]: ah, someone else has pulled up a chair now
XY0908 [-\]: This is an open tournament.
XY0908 [-\]: Not an amateurs only tournament.
cloud [2d\]: i cant imagine b pulling this stone out right away
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;B[lf]C[baian [1d\]: =)
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;W[mf]
;B[mg]
;W[nf]C[GoGetta [-\]: I wouldlove to see white scatter all ofthe stones and throws his chair if he loses
XY0908 [-\]: There goes moyo...
MrShintou [5d\]: if b lives..
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;B[kh]C[shindon [9k\]: ye
evanj [2d\]: well, not yet... have to wait and see what an 8p manages to do with those stones!
evanj [2d\]: if it were me they'd all be dead already
cloud [2d\]: seems like a risky plan by black
evanj [2d\]: b seems to be playing like he knows he'll win
GoGetta [-\]: k10 tengen
CardiffGo [2k?\]: O13 seems sensible, albeit maybe slow
MrShintou [5d\]: k9 
docJ [7k\]: if they were mine they'd have flowers on their grave by now
ooOoo [1d\]: or would lose
cloud [2d\]: k11
PinotNero [2k\]: K11 good move
Arhiman [3k\]: k11
PinotNero [2k\]: K10 oso possible
darkboy [4k\]: ok
XY0908 [-\]: N12 is my move.
DoubleLion [2k\]: j11
cloud [2d\]: w needs to prevent b j12
alexjhu [9k\]: n12 - k13
Koreangrl8 [3k\]: j11..
DoubleLion [2k\]: i called it first!
DoubleLion [2k\]: heheh
Arhiman [3k\]: k11
DokdoKorea [2k\]: who is winning?
evanj [2d\]: k12 then cap?
DokdoKorea [2k\]: beside our captain
DoubleLion [2k\]: b has more territory dok
DokdoKorea [2k\]: thx, lion
DoubleLion [2k\]: but we want to see the pro fail
DoubleLion [2k\]: :p
evanj [2d\]: I would love to see Eric win
evanj [2d\]: ... but I am not optimistic
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;W[ji]C[Arhiman [3k\]: ^^
CardiffGo [2k?\]: Well done all
DokdoKorea [2k\]: i want BBWdies
Arhiman [3k\]: he is not BBW
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;B[lj]C[DokdoKorea [2k\]: huh?
TheShadow [-\]: bbw already won his game on board 2
Arhiman [3k\]: andy liu is bbw
DokdoKorea [2k\]: he is pianist?
fairgo1 [1k\]: lol
Over9k [2k\]: BBW is andy liu
docJ [7k\]: that was fast
Astral [3k\]: Has Eric lui an account on kgs?
DokdoKorea [2k\]: sorry
TheShadow [-\]: TheOne
evanj [2d\]: w doesn't really play on kgs much
evanj [2d\]: apparently
MrShintou [5d\]: Eric Lui is Pianist..  Myung-Wan is Tartrate.
justagirl [13k\]: real?
evanj [2d\]:  ... here we go ...
DokdoKorea [2k\]: and i am sai
Koreangrl8 [3k\]: bigbadwolf. i think
TheShadow [-\]: no
cloud [2d\]: eric has a very clear chance to win though
docJ [7k\]: and i am god
CardiffGo [2k?\]: There is still the aji of the Q14 stones remember
justagirl [13k\]: sai better
cloud [2d\]: if b dies here he wins, if b lives he loses
USGO1 [-\]: White has 40 minutes left. Black has 1 hour remaining.
DokdoKorea [2k\]: i am not God but u all think i am
fairgo1 [1k\]: compendium is an account of eric lui's i think
GoGetta [-\]: I dont tihnk black is tratrate
TheShadow [-\]: he's not
XY0908 [-\]: I don't think there's any chance that B dies here...
DoubleLion [2k\]: many peeps think b is tartrate
DuiBuQi: It is rather well known that B is tartrate after he posted it on his blog -_-
XY0908 [-\]: No need to talk about that now...
DoubleLion [2k\]: your right xy, sorry
docJ [7k\]: tartrate should play citrate
CardiffGo [2k?\]: You're right ...
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;W[kk]C[XY0908 [-\]: Whoa...
fairgo1 [1k\]: what?
docJ [7k\]: gasp!!!
XY0908 [-\]: Eric really want to kill.
DoubleLion [2k\]: kill, happy happy joy joy
evanj [2d\]: don't see he has much choice
MrShintou [5d\]: xy, its not just a want :D
evanj [2d\]: this is what happens 
cloud [2d\]: b m9 simply?
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;B[nj]C[XY0908 [-\]: Cornered mouse can bite cat's nose.
MrShintou [5d\]: b can always abandont his gropu and try to bring R14 to life
evanj [2d\]: w has left the board
CardiffGo [2k?\]: B pressing on relatively weak W shape on right
evanj [2d\]: now b has left too
USGO1 [-\]: Both players have left the room.
XY0908 [-\]: ;-)
evanj [2d\]: they're going to settle this in the parking lot
DokdoKorea [2k\]: hehe XY, we go player all want to kill once in a while
CardiffGo [2k?\]: haha
GoGetta [-\]: Black has sente for the past l7 moves
GoGetta [-\]: *7
alrobin [10k\]: how much time left?
docJ [7k\]: w is short a bit on time
USGO1 [-\]: White has 35 minutes left. Black has 55 minutes left.
USGO1 [-\]: Each also has 5 byoyomi periods of 30seconds.
cloud [2d\]: w has no good response to this move
Leibnix [8k\]: Is the clocks stopped now, when both players have left?
USGO1 [-\]: And beginning at noon (I think) they may seal a move and take a break for lunch.
Over9k [2k\]: no
Leibnix [8k\]: are* ;)
MrShintou [5d\]: p9 seems fine
cloud [2d\]: p9 n8?
macgill [2k\]:  b has ways to get out 
TheShadow [-\]: Eric's KGS username is on the back of his tshirt
USGO1 [-\]: Both players are back.
edlee [2k\]: do they write down the sealed move & give it to you, USGo?
macgill [2k\]: w is hard to have next step now
USGO1 [-\]: The player sealing the move tells it to the tournament director, who records the time on the clock as well.
docJ [7k\]: which is?  (Eric user's name is)
alexjhu [9k\]: i hate taking center
DiGigot [6k\]: TheShadow : "Wallmart" ?
CardiffGo [2k?\]: When will they return?
BenjaminGl [12k?\]: whats sealing
USGO1 [-\]: the back of Eric's shirt reads THE ONE
edlee [2k\]: oh, they can just pause the clock and keep the remaining times?
cloud [2d\]: is eric wearing the umbc go club shirt?
BenjaminGl [12k?\]: they probably both have to agree to it
DokdoKorea [2k\]: how old is the one?
evanj [2d\]: Ben: when they both leave for a break, the player whose turn it is records his next move so that he can't, in theory, go and think about it while his clock isn't running
Leibnix [8k\]: smart
jantiff [-\]: b is crazy
evanj [2d\]: although sometimes a player will choose a trivial sente move (like a ko threat) and then think about his "real" next move
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;W[ok]C[BenjaminGl [12k?\]: lol even though they kind of can for the other moves
DanielTom [3d\]: l14 strange to me
evanj [2d\]: yeah, it's an imperfect system
evanj [2d\]: but standard for long matches
CardiffGo [2k?\]: L9?
CardiffGo [2k?\]: M9 I mean
evanj [2d\]: often in a pro game record you will see (for ex.) "119 was the sealed move" and it's a trivial, irrelevant sente move off in a corner somewhere
evanj [2d\]: then they both stay up all night plotting the continuation
alexjhu [9k\]: isn't that not fair
evanj [2d\]: not really, no
evanj [2d\]: but there's no fair way to take a break from a game
CardiffGo [2k?\]: Always unfair by its very asymetrical nature
TheShadow [-\]: they will only use a sealed move of the lunch break... otherwise the clock keeps running
alexjhu [9k\]: the guys with more pro friend wins at the end
CardiffGo [2k?\]: The player making the sealed move can plot variations
evanj [2d\]: yup
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;B[ml]C[DiGigot [6k\]: costs him a ko threat
evanj [2d\]: although, to be fair, the other player (esp. in pro games) will know what the alternatives are as well
jantiff [-\]: good move
MrShintou [5d\]: m7 
jantiff [-\]: hard for w
evanj [2d\]: keima party
CardiffGo [2k?\]: Black driving towards poor White shape
MrShintou [5d\]: its hard if you need the groups to be connected
jantiff [-\]: M4
CardiffGo [2k?\]: Eric still dictating play
luda [11k\]: now it's quite evident that one of them will die !
Arhiman [3k\]: n8 impressive
fairgo1 [1k\]: m7?
Bengo [2d?\]: or m8?
XY0908 [-\]: Aji that Q14 stones carry is getting bigger and bigger.
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;W[lp]C[jantiff [-\]: =p
Chuushoku [11k\]: yeah, was just looking at p13
MrShintou [5d\]: its too weak...
evanj [2d\]: p13 bad
evanj [2d\]: just strengthens w's attack on center b group
Chuushoku [11k\]: not p13 now, later
Chuushoku [11k\]: for b perhaps, try to cut and atttack q10
darkboy [4k\]: or not
Planets [7k\]: how does he cut a diagonal -___-
DoubleLion [2k\]: i would never have guessed m4^^
Verse [4k\]: by the point b has time to play p13, it likely won't matter.
KlerChazal [-\]: no wall list available for this congress?
Chuushoku [11k\]: prabably ... what i lack in skill, i make up for in imagination :)
longtong [15k?\]: who wins?
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;B[kl]C[MrShintou [5d\]: l8 
DoubleLion [2k\]: prolly black
MrShintou [5d\]: too slow..
fairgo1 [1k\]: b escapes now
luda [11k\]: 8P escaping, lol
evanj [2d\]: b is picking apart w's position with extraordinary precision
fairgo1 [1k\]: @_@
jantiff [-\]: it hurts :(
DoubleLion [2k\]: to bad, b wins again:(
jantiff [-\]: very sharp plays
cloud [2d\]: m2 maybe?
evanj [2d\]: hard for w now
Bengo [2d?\]: I bet if b was the amateur everyone would have been saying "look how well w chases b" or "look, b is going to die"
luda [11k\]: that's true Bengo
polonius [8k?\]: it's true :)
MrShintou [5d\]: actually b has a lot of space.  i felt if b was to die there then Q14 would live
ethanb [2d?\]: not at this move :P
luda [11k\]: but there's no shame in that
polonius [8k?\]: this is an interesting shape, does it have a name?
edlee [2k\]: pro shape :)
polonius [8k?\]: it's like a slanted bamboo joint
evanj [2d\]: Myung-Wan Kim's Jaws of Death
ethanb [2d?\]: it's definitely a tesuji of some sort - there are analogies in a couple of joseki
jantiff [-\]: double dog head butt ^^
Over9k [2k\]: a parallelogram
Chuushoku [11k\]: universal conenctor
polonius [8k?\]: haha
CardiffGo [2k?\]: There is still great aji with the Q14 stones I feel
evanj [2d\]: i like double dog head butt
MrShintou [5d\]: k9 only choice
evanj [2d\]: how do you say that in japanese?
SeNe [-\]: k9 was a movie 'about a police dog :D
MrShintou [5d\]: okay?
CardiffGo [2k?\]: k9 a an appropriate response to a double dog hear butt
CardiffGo [2k?\]: k9 - canine
Yippie [2d\]: that is why it is called a dog-fighting opening move
litchee [2k\]: isnt l1O sente ?  then k8
USGO1 [-\]: Eric is twiddling stones again and shaking his head.
polonius [8k?\]: uh oh!
Chuushoku [11k\]: multitasking ...
evanj [2d\]: twiddling, eh?
Yoseki [3k\]: dogliness
Bengo [2d?\]: MrS, what would b response be to m9?
pendulum [3k\]: how much time do they have?
edlee [2k\]: a few minutes from noon there...
Porkypine [8k\]: They both look pretty young, especially the one on the right :O 
MrShintou [5d\]: m9 l10 k10 n9 
evanj [2d\]: the one on the right is 19 I think?
USGO1 [-\]: White has 22 minutes left. Black has 54 minutes left.
Porkypine [8k\]: Really? I was thinking more like 15 *kicks self*
ethanb [2d?\]: more than that - I think he was 17 last time I played him in a tournament
ethanb [2d?\]: about 4 years ago
Hoyuk [12k\]: you played him?
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;W[mq]C[ethanb [2d?\]: took 5 stones and got crushed - it was awesome :D
evanj [2d\]: i've played him too
evanj [2d\]: but not since he was 12 or so
GoGetta [-\]: After a game like this i would crash
evanj [2d\]: he beat the snot out of me, but only gave me 2 stones I think, so there
ethanb [2d?\]: haha
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;B[mo]C[DanielTom [3d\]: :)
Hoyuk [12k\]: i can win him with 360 stone handicap for me ^^
USGO1 [-\]: Myung Wan hesitated several times before this move.
MrShintou [5d\]: its because he is willing to let his stones die now for a lot of points on the bottom
ethanb [2d?\]: hoyuk, how? 360 stone handicap means white's first move is a huge capture
MrShintou [5d\]: he has read out the right side too probably; even though i don't see it :D 
docJ [7k\]: with 360 b stones on board, W takes 'em all on first  move.
DoubleLion [2k\]: lol
Hoyuk [12k\]: yes ^^ lol
bubakloc [3k\]: with 360 stones you will lose:)
sinsai [1k\]: who won the game?
DoubleLion [2k\]: santa
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;W[lk]
;B[mk]
;W[mn]C[Hoyuk [12k\]: christmas already?
Bengo [2d?\]: all in...
sinsai [1k\]: is it done?
Yippie [2d\]: w got 80.5 komi on a 9x9, b played 5-5, what is w's move?
Mem0r3x [1k\]: Pass
Porkypine [8k\]: pass
Porkypine [8k\]: lol
ooOoo [1d\]: w's investing too much
Mem0r3x [1k\]: ^^
Mem0r3x [1k\]: Black has played one stone so he will have 80.
Hoyuk [12k\]: b m5 m6
Porkypine [8k\]: 79.5
Mem0r3x [1k\]: And white 80.5
Mem0r3x [1k\]: W won
Porkypine [8k\]: ohh people are sitting next to them
Porkypine [8k\]: rude
Porkypine [8k\]: hanging over the table too
edlee [2k\]: not if they remain quiet :)
raifu [3k\]: crowd gathering
USGO1 [-\]: Several 6 dans are watching, the room is still silent.
ZeroDemi [13k\]: is there a live showing of this?
Porkypine [8k\]: www.eurogotv.com
edlee [2k\]: yes zero
ZeroDemi [13k\]: ohh k thx
curious [-\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
DanielTom [3d\]: W did well
USGO1 [-\]: James Sedgwick 6d, Yixian Zhou 6d, Matt Luce of the E-Journal team, Jie Liang 7d...
cloud [2d\]: w did well? as in the game is over now?
Mem0r3x [1k\]: Eric is french?
MalRondon [9k\]: acha que preto vive daniel?
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;B[lo]C[TheShadow [-\]: Eric is Americian
DanielTom [3d\]: o pro não é parvo, mal
DanielTom [3d\]: :)
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;W[ko]
;B[ln]C[Mem0r3x [1k\]: Ok thx
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;W[lm]
;B[kn]
;W[ll]C[Yoseki [3k\]: W wants M8?
gtrmsn [2d\]: exchange?
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: Strong dans Ladder...interesting ^^
oreh [15k\]: is it really to got undo at this high lvl match ?
shindon [9k\]: ya
DanielTom [3d\]: and sente
barty [2d\]: nice
cloud [2d\]: sente really nice
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;B[mm]
;W[nn]C[raifu [3k\]: wow lots of ppl now
DanielTom [3d\]: as usual
Yippie [2d\]: can b live around n12?
USGO1 [-\]: Will Lockhart 5d and Andy Liu 7d are looking on now as well.
DanielTom [3d\]: i say B is dead
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;B[jn]
;W[kj]C[lokki [3d\]: looks b will die
Arhiman [3k\]: will kill of m10 be enough for white ?
reprisal [4d\]: b dying is likely
DoubleLion [2k\]: interesting development
evanj [2d\]: i don't think w has enough
freddygo [5k\]: p8
Yippie [2d\]: yeah likely ^^
esko [1k\]: why not b l10?
Mem0r3x [1k\]: Can't can't with p8.
esko [1k\]: oh nvm
freddygo [5k\]: right
Yoseki [3k\]: wow crowd gathering
Arhiman [3k\]: d10 now ?
ZeroDemi [13k\]: is it just me or is the live broadcast a little laggy?
raifu [3k\]: is andy in the orange
evanj [2d\]: it is
mini [4d\]: n7
XY0908 [-\]: Is there a dress code in the USGC?
Mem0r3x [1k\]: Maybe o7 after q9
ZeroDemi [13k\]: k
Bengo [2d?\]: r11 maybe?
GoGetta [-\]: Their 8p is about to get crushed senses are tingling
Yoseki [3k\]: yes you must wear a t-shirt
evanj [2d\]: it's hot in virginia in august
MrShintou [5d\]: now comes the right side
MrShintou [5d\]: and white will reisgn
Porkypine [8k\]: pants optional then yoseki?
DanielTom [3d\]: what is best c13 or c12 for B?
MrShintou [5d\]: r11 
Arhiman [3k\]: can p13 lead to something for black ?
evanj [2d\]: porky: only if your t-shirt is long enough
Bheeshma [4k\]: black losing?
Arhiman [3k\]: or p12 ?
Yoseki [3k\]: yes could be shorts
DanielTom [3d\]: i don't think so Bheeshma
Yoseki [3k\]: B made some points on bottom
CardiffGo [2k?\]: Remember, Black playing at N10 enables the cut  at P8
Arhiman [3k\]: maybe n16 in sente ?
Bheeshma [4k\]: what's his plan then?
fairgo1 [1k\]: how much time left for both players? :|
Mem0r3x [1k\]: Black still has some good aji with q14
thekaiser [1d\]: l11?
evanj [2d\]: b: about 50 years; w: about 60 years
Mem0r3x [1k\]: Next move will be decisive.
Hoyuk [12k\]: what is w's plan?
Nouli [-\]: kill b
edlee [2k\]: it's past noon already... are they going to seal soon?
Nouli [-\]: and win 
Bheeshma [4k\]: ah.. a cut on the cards .. 
fairgo1 [1k\]: lol
DiGigot [6k\]: P13 quiet useful for both ?
ericosman [1k\]: black not quite dead because k12 and k13 are sente
GoGetta [-\]: I see ko 
Korea4K [2d\]: b in center alive
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;B[og]C[DiGigot [6k\]: \\o/
Arhiman [3k\]: héhé
Arhiman [3k\]: answer to my question ^^
docJ [7k\]: I see dead people
lokki [3d\]: i dont see wai to life
ericosman [1k\]: also, the white p9 stones aren't singing kumbaya either
Hoyuk [12k\]: i see nuts
Execute [2k\]: one of these groups will die
ethanb [2d?\]: korea4k - probably a good bet in pro vs. amateur :P I don't see a path though
DanielTom [3d\]: O.o
succube [6k\]: it's a western
Arhiman [3k\]: maybe black is trying to get r11 ?
DanielTom [3d\]: B will DIE
DiGigot [6k\]: now white plan is : not die
XY0908 [-\]: Kumbaya, my lord kumbaya...
ethanb [2d?\]: who is Kumbaya? a daimyo?
Planets [7k\]: ooooh lo-ord....kumbaya...
Hoyuk [12k\]: lol
Yippie [2d\]: o13 a must or b is alive
ericosman [1k\]: why do the time clocks show 120:00 in red and not changing ?
DanielTom [3d\]: kumbaya
DoubleLion [2k\]: you didnt strike me as a believer xy...
evanj [2d\]: because they're not set up
Yoseki [3k\]: the guy in orange tee is looking on very inventsely
huffle [1d\]: b o7 seems dangerous
edlee [2k\]: eric, because this is relayed
evanj [2d\]: yoseki: you mean b?
Korea4K [2d\]:  miai b will try to cut of  both groupe
raifu [3k\]: is the orange T andy liu
Russianlll [4k\]: eric lui in red or the black t?
ericosman [1k\]: any way to know how much time actually on their clocks ?
evanj [2d\]: black, russian
Russianlll [4k\]: thanks
aga2k [4k\]: what is the page where this is getting broadcast online
Yoseki [3k\]: no eric in dark t
evanj [2d\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel-popup/eurogotv-ustest
Arhiman [3k\]: black russian is very good to drin, evanj
Arhiman [3k\]: drink
Yoseki [3k\]: the guy in orange tee has left
evanj [2d\]: an excellent observation
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;W[ni]C[Hoyuk [12k\]: i think kgs should program an info page into these games with all the info needed to enjoy this game
Shukai [1d\]: hey broadcaster give us a wave!
Yoseki [3k\]: no Russian chat today?
Arhiman [3k\]: wow, this protect from any b r11 ?
]
;B[mj]C[evanj [2d\]: nyet
Yippie [2d\]: options, rules
Bengo [2d?\]: dont understand o11
Hoyuk [12k\]: i mean links to the videos etc
Korea4K [2d\]: n10 coool
evanj [2d\]: o11 seems bad since it provokes n10, no?
DiGigot [6k\]: O13
Yippie [2d\]: that's up to the user to put into, options, rules
Lion [2d\]: very longg game
Yoseki [3k\]: ok B connects then what? semeai with Q10 stones?
CardiffGo [2k?\]: See - the join is what Black wanted
Yippie [2d\]: in this case usgo
CardiffGo [2k?\]: For P8 cut
Korea4K [2d\]: b can cut on p8 or p11
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;W[ng]C[Ekibyo [10k\]: why b dont play n11?
ericosman [1k\]: n10 disquieting to spectators, since it blatantly fills a liberty
DiGigot [6k\]: \\o/
Kokono [19k\]: O11 cut N10 with P13
evanj [2d\]: who needs liberties when you pave p8
Kokono [19k\]: maybe w want to KO N10
cloud [2d\]: p8 and game over?
Yoseki [3k\]: hte guy in the brown tee looks funny
Mem0r3x [1k\]: p8 not so easy.
foshizzle [11k\]: lol
ericosman [1k\]: i guess a bit of a trade than, the white p7 stones and the black r14 ones
Cruciatus [3k\]: B p8
Yippie [2d\]: p8 seems good though
Arhiman [3k\]: p8 works ? you sure ?
cloud [2d\]: yeah
PinotNero [2k\]: hmm b dead
Lion [2d\]: nah
gobanban [4k\]: it better for b
jantiff [-\]: why P13 then
DanielTom [3d\]: <.<
Lion [2d\]: 8p cant die
Lion [2d\]: its unpoosibole
Kokono [19k\]: KO and KO @@
DanielTom [3d\]: pros know how to sacriface
Mem0r3x [1k\]: He can... against a 9p
Yippie [2d\]: the 8p has to play p8
Mem0r3x [1k\]: ^^
Bheeshma [4k\]: 8p can.. tartrate cant.. this is a good test
ericosman [1k\]: after b p8 and white o8 and black o7, the white p7 stone is piqued
DanielTom [3d\]: sacrifice*
Yoseki [3k\]: would be fun to see Kim against Feng Yun
DanielTom [3d\]: but i'm still to see what B wants
SeNe [-\]: black looks terribly lost out
reprisal [4d\]: w still has more liberties after p8
ooOoo [1d\]: r10?
reprisal [4d\]: so you have to find something clever
Yoseki [3k\]: no B looks very quiet
DiGigot [6k\]: maybe a pro trick
GoGetta [-\]: Time to bend down on knees and scream no
Yippie [2d\]: you sure reprisal?
Hoyuk [12k\]: or sing kumbaya
reprisal [4d\]: sure 4 to 3
DiGigot [6k\]: 1) look lost 2) build a B2 bomber
Yoseki [3k\]: right after I get my giant pipe
Yippie [2d\]: because b can connect with n12 to me
Planets [7k\]: 3) ??? 4) profit.
Yippie [2d\]: and get alot of liberties
suiram [5k\]: do all high pro's swing?1
suiram [5k\]: yesterday 9p was swinging
suiram [5k\]: now he is
R [1k\]: seems I'm so noob... I don't see any variant for B, and i don't understand how B could allow this position on the board.
DiGigot [6k\]: 3) kill somme groups
tornemhi [1d\]: trick aruond k12  :?
DiGigot [6k\]: some
Yoseki [3k\]: rocking back and forth is a consoling technique
Arhiman [3k\]: w n6 was nice, preventing black from getting b2bomber
Yoseki [3k\]: perfected by moms eveywhere
suiram [5k\]: and all 7d are so skinny :D
Yippie [2d\]: R, b seems ahead aslong as he can use n10 sufficiently
reprisal [4d\]: by which you mean "not die horribly" ?
Zorba [4d\]: on the eurogotv.com broadcast they say that Feng Yun is playing, is there some mistake ?
longtong [15k?\]: Yippie: i doubt so... seems hard to survive for B in my stand...
Yoseki [3k\]: to get to 7d, you need to have no life
jayjolin [1k\]: r11
evanj [2d\]: zorba; info is from last night's nAIM game
gallego [1k\]: what about something like r11?
gallego [1k\]: ;)
Yoseki [3k\]: yes the feed title was not updated
Yippie [2d\]: to me b doesn't have to survive, just get something like r11
zifir [-\]: P 12
Mem0r3x [1k\]: White must be saying : "Yes! I'm gonna beat a 8p then I'll be famous and get my name all around the world"
jayjolin [1k\]: : )
Sgarobo [6k\]: b p11 ?
R [1k\]: thanks Yippie, but p13 is also dead 
cloud [2d\]: eric already well known
Zorba [4d\]: tx evanj
Yoseki [3k\]: it's be cool if an American wins, no offence
globax [4d\]: r11?
jantiff [-\]: R11 is hardly a success at all, is it
evanj [2d\]: now they're both rocking back and forth, it's mesmerizing
foshizzle [11k\]: p12?
Kokono [19k\]: R11 isn't easy for B
evanj [2d\]: like one of those things with the hanging balls bouncing back and forth
cloud [2d\]: um
fairgo1 [1k\]: how much time left?
DiGigot [6k\]: yes that's the amateur part of the trick : 1) I can't win 2) I'm gonna kill him and then resign 3) uh-oh i'm gonna win 4) i've lost
Hojo [2k\]: i think R11 is very risky
Yoseki [3k\]: they guy in the whtie tee is text-messaging
Sgarobo [6k\]: is b p11 bad?
DanielTom [3d\]: i want to know the time too, please
R [1k\]: I'll die before the next move. I cannot wait
Korea4K [2d\]: p11 not good
evanj [2d\]: gesundheit
Kokono [19k\]: KO n10 for w , and KO O6 for B
jantiff [-\]: not so obvious
Korea4K [2d\]: w cut still on p10
USGO1 [-\]: Black has 36 minutes left, white has 14 minutes left.
Sgarobo [6k\]: b p11 w p10 b o12... ?
Arhiman [3k\]: is white preparing q7 to get the right side in a trade with center ?
Korea4K [2d\]: exchange is only way
Korea4K [2d\]: P8
cloud [2d\]: i dont know why b made the game this complicated
jantiff [-\]: P8 = loss
foshizzle [11k\]: B looks kinda nervous in the vid
edlee [2k\]: USGO, is lunch optional, or is everyone required to take a break and seal the move?
USGO1 [-\]: I'm beginning to wonder that myself. There are only a handful of games still in progress.
thekaiser [1d\]: b seems dead to me
Shukai [1d\]: the most hardcore players never eat
evanj [2d\]: oh no USGO is hungry
Shukai [1d\]: its a battle of stomachs now
Cruciatus [3k\]: p8 doesn't work
Yoseki [3k\]: would be tought to eat with such a fight gling on
USGO1 [-\]: I believe that it is optional but that either player can call for a lunch break and seal a move.
DiGigot [6k\]: real men never eat during the battle
aga2k [4k\]: why not cruciatus
Anthony22 [4k\]: i thought kim myung-wan was much older
jantiff [-\]: i couldn't eat anything :)
edlee [2k\]: thx, USGO
Zorba [4d\]: zchen what do you think b has to do ?
Yoseki [3k\]: young korean pro.... no chance
Yippie [2d\]: w got like 50 in the center if b dies, say 10 in lower left.. bgot 20 lower right say 10 at top and 5 in lower left and 20 in upper left
suiram [5k\]: k13 and then something?
Youmio: What is the result of the game between Guthrie Price and Feng Yun?
Yippie [2d\]: +komi
DoubleLion [2k\]: if they eat now all the blood will go to the stomach instead of the brain
Yoseki [3k\]: Feng won
Yippie [2d\]: gets the game quite even
jantiff [-\]: how does K13 help ?
fairgo1 [1k\]: feng yun won
Koreangrl8 [2k\]: feng yun is 3-0?
Youmio: Thank you
GoGetta [-\]: usgo probably wants to leave
R [1k\]: USGO, could you ask B to play  faster ;))
foshizzle [11k\]: i would think it would be easier to think with a full stomach
evanj [2d\]: lunchtime?
Yippie [2d\]: p8 is enough because then black got like 30-35 in lower right
about4d: they are still playing ? O_o
Koreangrl8 [2k\]: lol
USGO1 [-\]: Eric has asked Myung-Wan if he'd like to break for lunch...
edlee [2k\]:  :)
Koreangrl8 [2k\]: oh...
DanielTom [3d\]: hm
Cruciatus [3k\]: B must attack lm central group from left to get compensation
evanj [2d\]: don't we get a vote?
jantiff [-\]: don't eat !! all your blood will go to your belly, nothing left for the brains ^^
Korea4K [2d\]: where got b  pro licence?
USGO1 [-\]: Myung Wan is ok with it and Eric is speaking with the tournament director.
foshizzle [11k\]: did white go to eat lunch?
KillerMonk [4d\]: how about l11 for black  is it sente  on the l10 group ?
jantiff [-\]: it's Eric's strategy to make b collapse ;-)
oreh [15k\]: vouch for jantiff
docJ [7k\]: is that why i always eat?
Annunaki [-\]: :)
Yippie [2d\]: b needs to write down the move ^_^
Arhiman [3k\]: oh, they can speak to other people ?
Koreangrl8 [2k\]: come on b..you can do it!!
Korea4K [2d\]: ^^
R [1k\]: may be an undo?
Shukai [1d\]: he prob figures one of them will resign soon
Zorba [4d\]: somebody could write me in chinese the " Feng" name please 
carbon729 [3d\]: w will put some sleeping pills in b's lunch?
Mem0r3x [1k\]: Maybe he will put some things in his food
xio [7k\]: b looks pretty bad
foshizzle [11k\]: lol
Koreangrl8 [2k\]: are round 3 results out  yet?
Arhiman [3k\]: I think I'll participate to the next Eurogocongress and speak with some 9p during my games ^^
Yoseki [3k\]: so , the other top boards are fininshed? or adjourned?
somekool [9k\]: why we cannot see the game played on eurogotv on kgs ?
evanj [2d\]: finished
scortius [3k?\]: why doesnt usgo break out in laughter from all these funny comment?
Jocky [3d\]: whu is winner?
Mem0r3x [1k\]: USGO if they write the move can you get it and play it on KGS? ^^
mareks [3k\]: pls where are the results?
Arhiman [3k\]: cuz we are not funny at all
evanj [2d\]: what funny comments?
USGO1 [-\]: The game is on break for lunch.
foshizzle [11k\]: what's the guy saying?
DanielTom [3d\]: :(
foshizzle [11k\]: oh
Jocky [3d\]: whu is winner?
Yippie [2d\]: for how long is the break?
Jocky [3d\]: ??????????
Koreangrl8 [2k\]: oh...lol
USGO1 [-\]: It will resume in one hour, at 1:30pm Eastern time
R [1k\]: I'll die during this lunch
GoGetta [-\]: How long lunch?
Jocky [3d\]: a k
edlee [2k\]: Zorba, I think Feng is 丰
Koreangrl8 [2k\]: we all were waiting for a move!
fairgo1 [1k\]: how much time was left?
poirette [1d\]: when do they resume, please?
fairgo1 [1k\]: >>
suiram [5k\]: shit
Yoseki [3k\]: but B is still thinking... cheater!
HandA [1k\]: oh god bed time
evanj [2d\]: in one hour
DrumsMan [2d\]: new opponent
Voj [6k\]: in one hour gys
foshizzle [11k\]: blargh i have to go to work
peter2 [2k\]: who is the large whiste
peter2 [2k\]: oops
quique [13k\]: whats' going on??
Annunaki [-\]: yeah , go spy and tell us what they r eating
Koreangrl8 [2k\]:   lunch break
evanj [2d\]: bow chicka wow wow
burrito [2k\]: O
burrito [2k\]: I'm blind!!!!
GoGetta [-\]: They are cheating for the 8p
ZeroDemi [13k\]: rofl
fairgo1 [1k\]: xD
burrito [2k\]: Jeff is telling him the next move to play!
foshizzle [11k\]: changing the peices a little lol
Javaness [2d\]: if they dont seal now they can't eat lunch
Koreangrl8 [2k\]: no way can cheat in go.?
USGO1 [-\]: A move has been sealed.
Javaness [2d\]: so this is why the seal
evanj [2d\]: hi java, how's your us open going
Javaness [2d\]: 3-0
GoGetta [-\]: how long is lunch?
DanielTom [3d\]: lets bet what move was it!
Koreangrl8 [2k\]: good job java
evanj [2d\]: that's only because i'm not there
GoGetta [-\]: Nooooooooooooooooo
R [1k\]: USGO1, do you know this move?
GoGetta [-\]: He left
about4d: "resign move"
Javaness [2d\]: heh evanj, guess what opening i played in the lightning
evanj [2d\]: i don't want to hear about it :D
evanj [2d\]: i'll be ready next time
Koreangrl8 [2k\]: USGO1 are the round 3 results out yet?
Kenjutsu [2k\]: anyone know any site for]
;B[ol]C[USGO1 [-\]: p8 was the sealed move
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;W[nl]
;B[nm]C[Korea4K [2d\]: correct
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;W[on]
;B[mh]C[DanielTom [3d\]: ?_=
Korea4K [2d\]: b will win^^
gocrazy432 [11k\]: lol i can see the game being recorded to kgs
Hanne [3k\]: b going for semeai ?
Kyuss [1k\]: kim is either desperate or he has read a long complex variation
polonius [8k?\]: or both
DanielTom [3d\]: yes B will win
DokdoKorea [2k\]: i can predict B's win
Korea4K [2d\]: p6 is overplay
DanielTom [3d\]: its do or die
DokdoKorea [2k\]: oh !ppl ! don't praise me as prophet^_^
gocrazy432 [11k\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
meuns [2k\]: b wins by one lib if there is a semeai with q4
foshizzle [12k\]: how much time do they have left?
suiram [5k\]: cool :)
suiram [5k\]: my move
Uberdude [4d?\]: i've got a bone to pick with the aga e-journal
Uberdude [4d?\]: they spam me
Analysis [2d\]: where can i find the current results of the congress?
DokdoKorea [2k\]: The one who lose this game is "THE ONE"
Korea4K [2d\]: one groupe of w is definitive dead
USGO1 [-\]: http://gocongress.org/news.php Open Results http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/72?sort=player Ing Results http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/62
fairgo1 [1k\]: p10
Hanne [3k\]: b does seem a little short on liberties
meuns [2k\]: no xD
meuns [2k\]: b alive
derp [1k\]: I like p10 too
DanielTom [3d\]: whos Kim, the one on the right?
meuns [2k\]: q7 only move for w
fairgo1 [1k\]: hmm
huggy [3k\]: meuns!
yithril [2d\]: left
DanielTom [3d\]: thx
meuns [2k\]: huggy !
Luffyop [2k\]: i think Q 7
DokdoKorea [2k\]: kissy better
Hoyuk [12k\]: something is not right...
danigabi [6d\]: the asia :O
danigabi [6d\]: the asian, DanielTom :P
Hoyuk [12k\]: i can't put my finger on it...
Hoyuk [12k\]: wait!
Hoyuk [12k\]: yes, it is the absence of chwan
DanielTom [3d\]: they both seem asian
Korea4K [2d\]: b is alive already  a in center
Hoyuk [12k\]: will us fellow kibitzers survive without him?
fairgo1 [1k\]: lol
JacquesGo [5d?\]: Sorry I don't see the name of Kim Myung in the results ....
Korea4K [2d\]: b= korean w= chinese
kahin [6k\]: p12 ?
DanielTom [3d\]: RESIGNE
shiniguari [3k\]: did players analyzed the game during the break?
fairgo1 [1k\]: i think w can win the semeai if he does p10
JohnnAsh [6k\]: thanks for web tv link gocrazy! fun
USGO1 [-\]: I don't believe that the players did much besides eat lunch.
fairgo1 [1k\]: lol
foshizzle [12k\]: j12?
cloud [2d\]: i dont think p10 works
fairgo1 [1k\]: xD
fairgo1 [1k\]: how come cloud?
cloud [2d\]: p10 q7?
fairgo1 [1k\]: hmm
Gaijin [6k\]: q7
fairgo1 [1k\]: n11
fairgo1 [1k\]: then by w
Luffyop [2k\]: q7
Hoyuk [12k\]: how can b be alright? it looks dead
DokdoKorea [2k\]: P10 no good
derp [1k\]: w wins after p10 q7 n11 m11 m12 m13 l11 o12 or so
Gaijin [6k\]: r7 loose ladder even?
fairgo1 [1k\]: yeah 
gocrazy432 [11k\]: yeah black looks dead
about4d: w looks dead faster
Hanne [3k\]: b is a go overlord
koram [7d\]: i dont think b dead
Hoyuk [12k\]: q10 group w?
lokki [3d\]: b looks more dead then w
koram [7d\]: but damaged.
about4d: P6 lack liberties, hoyuk
Senki [2d\]: w has to rescue o4 goup
derp [1k\]: oops, I mean l11 m12 o12
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: yes, P6 group is very weak.
Hoyuk [12k\]: oh blind me thanx
Senki [2d\]: in semeai black faster
CardiffGo [2k?\]: Maybe W Q7 then
Korea4K [2d\]: b can alive in sente it means w at least one groupe dead!
USGO1 [-\]: Eric Lui is out of basic time, and has 5 periods of 30-second byo-yomi left
cloud [2d\]: oh hmm
vachibou [12k\]: woohou c'est gratos !
danigabi [6d\]: he is cooked
fairgo1 [1k\]: he always goes into byomi .-.
GoGetta [-\]: Oh shizzle
polonius [8k?\]: ouch
DokdoKorea [2k\]: how bout B's time?
Hoyuk [12k\]: thinks better under pressure
fairgo1 [1k\]: i still think p10 works
polonius [8k?\]: the board is half-empty still...
foshizzle [12k\]: how much time do they have left?
danigabi [6d\]: o4 has 4 liberties
about4d: P10 doesn't work
JacquesGo [5d?\]: Sorry : where I don't find Kim in the results ?
USGO1 [-\]: At the top.
Analysis [2d\]: yes, at the top of the open 
derp [1k\]: can you show a sequence why p10 doesn't work?
DanielTom [3d\]: lot of time pressure
barty [2d\]: p10 is ok for me too
cloud [2d\]: well if w plays p10 b can't play q7
Luffyop [2k\]: n11
polonius [8k?\]: has eric already lost byo-yomi periods?
danigabi [6d\]: but w q7 to save p6 is really effective
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;W[li]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: who win?
DanielTom [3d\]: b
danigabi [6d\]: oops
lokki [3d\]: wow i never expected this move
fairgo1 [1k\]: O.o
Analysis [2d\]: lol a crowd is forming
meuns [2k\]: what is a crow ?
cloud [2d\]: go eric!
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;B[mi]C[DanielTom [3d\]: ?
Shojo [3k\]: he said crowd, -_-
DanielTom [3d\]: i want the pro to win!
Senki [2d\]: this is ericdai?
Hoyuk [12k\]: haha
meuns [2k\]: what is a crowd ?
meuns [2k\]: (...)
TheShadow [-\]: a crowd is a large group of people
andreiraz [5k\]: p11 
Analysis [2d\]: around the board
meuns [2k\]: ah ok ok
meuns [2k\]: thx
Analysis [2d\]: alot of people are watching in person now
cloud [2d\]: geez menus
cloud [2d\]: you didn't know that??
foshizzle [12k\]: lol
meuns [2k\]: meuns !
meuns [2k\]: :p
holycarp [-\]: look look the amateur gonna kill the 8p¡
danigabi [6d\]: O12?
meuns [2k\]: b alive
cloud [2d\]: meuns?? you spelled your own name wrong??
fairgo1 [1k\]: lol
meuns [2k\]: !
danigabi [6d\]: i dont see how he is alive
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;W[nh]C[trapare: whenever a crow poos on you, you're crowd
danigabi [6d\]: b looks dead by 1 move
meuns [2k\]: q7 ?
andreiraz [5k\]: wrong
GoGetta [-\]: Yeahblack is alive
cloud [2d\]: oh man this is crazy
fairgo1 [1k\]: see w killed it >.>
cloud [2d\]: i think w wins this
foshizzle [12k\]: j12
GoGetta [-\]: k12 
KillerMonk [4d\]: black can escape 
goalier [3d\]: M12
danigabi [6d\]: how?
andreiraz [5k\]: black alive
goalier [3d\]: black fine
DuiBuQi: wow great play by black
andreiraz [5k\]: :((
Korea4K [2d\]: K12
jayjolin [1k\]: lol
danigabi [6d\]: k12 j12
about4d: w dead by one to me
andreiraz [5k\]: wthe should kill him
andreiraz [5k\]: lol
meuns [2k\]: q7
koram [7d\]: k12
Luffyop [2k\]: white dead
DanielTom [3d\]: q7 m12 
KillerMonk [4d\]: k12 j12 then l11 is sente
Hanne [3k\]: might even be ko
Crumb [4k\]: D10!
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;B[jh]C[GoGetta [-\]: Im 8p!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ZeroDemi [13k\]: rofl
Korea4K [2d\]: b alive
KillerMonk [4d\]: then atari at k13 and lives 
DanielTom [3d\]: misread, i'm wrong
danigabi [6d\]: i see, no time to m13?
goalier [3d\]: good
about4d: Q7 now seems forced
meuns [2k\]: aliveeee
goalier [3d\]: better
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;W[ii]C[KillerMonk [4d\]: if not black can escape 
trapare: L11
ZeroDemi [13k\]: hm
GoGetta [-\]: k13 or j12 
meuns [2k\]: b too strong
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;B[pm]C[andreiraz [5k\]: p10 
meuns [2k\]: ^^
Luffyop [2k\]: N11 was killing
DanielTom [3d\]: b is safe now
Hoyuk [12k\]: B+awesome
holycarp [-\]: he was tartrate crowd say
foshizzle [12k\]: oooh
fairgo1 [1k\]: w should have p10
meuns [2k\]: he is tartrate ^^
fairgo1 [1k\]: -.-
USGO1 [-\]: Eric Lui has resigned. Myung Wan Kim has won.
Erimies [4d\]: :p
KillerMonk [4d\]: wow nice game both 
ZeroDemi [13k\]: WOO
polonius [8k?\]: tartrate the best
yithril [2d\]: wow
Hoyuk [12k\]: he got kimmed!
TheShadow [-\]: thanks usgo1
GoGetta [-\]: gg
Korea4K [2d\]:  strong
Shojo [3k\]: why do the pros keep playing as b?
foshizzle [12k\]: wow, that was fun to watch
edlee [2k\]: thx USGO
Janan [-\]: thanks
SeNe [-\]: anyway, he stood up to a pro
Hoyuk [12k\]: nice thanx everyone
Execute [2k\]: who is tartrate?
holycarp [-\]: he ruled this server as tartrate in the kgs early years
meuns [2k\]: the pairaing
danigabi [6d\]: interesting
SeNe [-\]: he should be proud
Execute [2k\]: i thought lui was tartaric
meuns [2k\]: tartaric isn't tratrate...
holycarp [-\]: tartaric only a wanabe
Execute [2k\]: i thought tartrate was revealed as some pro
Shojo [3k\]: and tratrate isn't tartrate
Uberdude [4d?\]: execute, not this lui
Execute [2k\]: ah
Execute [2k\]: ok
polonius [8k?\]: tartaric is liu, not lui
Gaijin [6k\]: game over?
Uberdude [4d?\]: in fact not any kui
fairgo1 [1k\]: pete liu? O.o
Uberdude [4d?\]: it's liu
bbred [5k\]: resign?
USGO1 [-\]: B+Resign. The players are reviewing the game now.
Gaijin [6k\]: wish we could ask we w didnt try to save p6 sooner....
Gaijin [6k\]: we=why
bbred [5k\]: how on earth has w been trapped like this?
gocrazy432 [11k\]: is white wearin orange shirt on the live stream?
Ferushen [6k\]: where are you seeing live stream?
gocrazy432 [11k\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
Ferushen [6k\]: ty
elligain [9k\]: or http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Bheeshma [4k\]: ??
iYokkyuu [3k\]: what?
USGO1 [-\]: Sorry about that.
Bheeshma [4k\]: phew.. i thought someone resigned
iYokkyuu [3k\]: hmmmm
DanielTom [3d\]: ?
GoGetta [-\]: ?
JacquesGo [5d?\]: result of this game ?
DanielTom [3d\]: no problem, USGO1
Bheeshma [4k\]: it's still on
bbred [5k\]: w p4?
gocrazy432 [11k\]: b resined
GoGetta [-\]: Why does it say moderated everytime i type??
USGO1 [-\]: B+Resign. Thank you all for watching!
JacquesGo [5d?\]: thx
DanielTom [3d\]: thank you!
GoGetta [-\]: Thx 
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